Deze vind ik t mooiste!
Mooi door alleen drie kleuren te gebruiken.
Good work!
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I don't understand the head scarf. If it's just anti-war, why the mask? Is it really possible to be a revolutionary and against war?

Sure it is. Revolutionaries thinks that war is a product of the society. Wars are going about land, treasure and oil. In a socialist society this will be from us all, so there won't be any need to fight over it. The only way to change our society radically is by an revolution. Hopefully this will then be the only outburst of violence.
The head-scarf is to represent activists who are against war, capitalism and repression. They need to be anonimous, other the state will track then down, torture them or kill them.

other = otherwise

So you're against conflict for physcial assets and resources, but for wars of empowerment. That can make sense, but I don't see why you'd think the current Iraq war is solely about resources. Iraqi's weren't oppressed under Saddam? You're in Europe? I don't know what kind of police state you have going there but being tracked down and tortured seems pretty blown out of proportion to an American. In Iraq they've had pro-communism rallies and protests and they don't wear head scarfs to hide themselves because they know we're giving them the opportunity to do it. They don't have to hide anymore, and they aren't playing revolutionaries.

Recently we had some "big" antiwar protest in Washington D.C. which turned out to be a total joke. Most of the people were not Anti-War but instead pro-Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and a large number of pet causes like gay rights, abortion, and the environment. A lot of them wore head scarfs. At this point Americans view these people with head scarfs as cowards. It's really unAmerican to protest without face because of our history and civil rights era. Protestors who wanted social change in the past stood bare faced against police dogs and water hoses. For people today to mask their identity is really a fear tactic, and no one buys it.

I guess what I'm saying is, to Americans, the head scarf is sign of violent militancy(War), and not peaceful activism.

I don't wear headscarfs, because it isn't necessary to do in Holland and I am proud for what I do here to stop the war. But not everywhere you're save. For instance Spain, some parts of Southern America, the Middle East and parts of Africa, it isn't save to demonstrate. People have been shot during demonstrations or been tracked down later. It's not only to stay anonimous, but also it can protects you from teargassed, flashbang and noise grenades used by riotpolice.
For me, the Palestinian scarf is a sign of solidarity in the resistance against the things which causes war or are caused by war. I think capitalism and neo-liberalism are the reasons war excists, that also why many of the anti-war protesters are pro-Socialism, Communism or Anarchism. This three ideologies want's to make an end to the capitalist system we are now living in. A system with a small group of very wealthy people and a large group of poor people. This is also a system where a small group of people have the power to starts war and declare that countries are run in a wrong way (Venezuela, Columbia etc.)

Sure enough, the Iraqi's were oppressed by Saddam, but THAT wasn't the reason they started the war. The reason was that it was said that the terrorist who attacked the world trade centre had help from Iraq. That there where weapons of mass-destruction that Saddam could use for terrorist attacks. And the only true reason is that Iraq has oil. Because of Saddam, Hallyburton oil from Cheney had to pay more and more and in Euros instead of dollars and that's what Cheney wasn't planning to do. Don't you think it's strange that America first attacked Afghanistan for no reason, but later on said that's it was because of the Taliban? Next the attacked Iraq and also said later on that it was because of Saddam.

I don't play to be revolutionarie. I truly believe that it is possible to change the world. But I also think that the ruling class won't step away by asking it nicely. Peacefull protests like there where in Seattle, Genoa and Prague has been beating down and teargassed away by the ruling class. I think that if you've have tried it in a peacefull way, there are not very much options left. But you've always to try it in a peacefull way first.

I think that if you've have tried it in a peacefull way, there are not very much options left. But you've always to try it in a peacefull way first.

So that's effectively what your message is? Stop the War or we will wage War against you. That's what they're doing in Palestine, waging a cowards war. It's not so much you're playing revolutionary, but playing terrorist. I think you're mixing internal struggles with conflicts between nations. Saying a socialist, communist, or anarchist country wouldn't wage war is silly. What if Kuwait was some kind of socialist utopia with no need for an army. What happens when Saddam mobilizes?

Sure enough, the Iraqi's were oppressed by Saddam, but THAT wasn't the reason they started the war. The reason was that it was said that the terrorist who attacked the world trade centre had help from Iraq. That there where weapons of mass-destruction that Saddam could use for terrorist attacks. And the only true reason is that Iraq has oil. Because of Saddam, Hallyburton oil from Cheney had to pay more and more and in Euros instead of dollars and that's what Cheney wasn't planning to do. Don't you think it's strange that America first attacked Afghanistan for no reason, but later on said that's it was because of the Taliban? Next the attacked Iraq and also said later on that it was because of Saddam.

You must have the worst media ever if you belive that's how the War in Iraq and Afghanistan was sold. I think your problem is you don't know anything about Afghanistan or Iraq, and you've yet to come up to speed about the reasons for the war. You have to keep in mind politicians are not educators.

I have the worst media ever? That's said by someone from a country which embedded journalists during the Iraq war and where the media only broadcasts what the white-house says them to do. A country who give Israel weapons of mass-destructions to oppress the Palestinian who only have their lives and rocks to protect them against gunships.
You are so misinformed. I think you realy need to open your eyes and see that the world isn't the way your presidents tries to portrait it to you. Don't watch only CNN or FOX but also watch independent tv stations. They will show you footage from both sides of the conflict.

I'm not a terrorist. A terrorist tries to overthrow a system by spreading fear and death. I don't kill people (your president does), I don't spread fear (your president does), so who's the terrorist? I want to live in a peacefull world, but that isn't possible because politicians and companies are selling weapons, starting wars and let people starve. The problem is, there are people who truly believe that their rulers are telling the truth and that they want have the best for everyone.

So what then is your message with this deviation? You keep changing the issue from Iraq to socialism and now Israel vs. Palestine. Media, governments... next you're going to talk about the Environment... there's no clarity in your message. Everything you've said is rediculous and contradictory. I'm a liberal American who doesn't watch CNN or FOX news. You're a buffoon who supports causes and fights you don't fully understand. It's all unfocused regurgitated rhetoric.

You're telling me, with all honesty, that you saw the world go into Afghanistan for no reason. And then later say it was about the Taliban? Whatever media you have in your country must be absolutely a joke. You're little diatribe on embedded journalists is equally idiotic. At the end of the day you really are for social revolutions in Arab countries, you just don't want the big bad United States to get the credit. You want some sort of violent internal coup d'etat that gives the illusion that it's the vanguard of a progressive movement for social change. When it comes to the Middle East, this means terrorism. You're supporting terrorism because you don't fully understand the world.

Everything you've said I've heard a million times over from American liberals. And foreigners. Everything you've said I've believe at one point or another. Then 9/11 happens and I've had to pull my head out of the sand and realize the world isn't what I thought it was. Head scarfs aren't for unarmed activism. You don't get social change by hiding your face and dehumanizing your plight.